This is ironic because Victor himself can be ignorant. For example. he created the monster, and then once he saw what he created, he tried to ignore what he had brought upon himself. Another example is when he is actually creating the monster, he completely ignores his family for 2 years. These are the people that actually love and care about him. Another reason he is being ignorant is because his father is paying for his schooling and other things so that he can be the man who he wants to be.
This statement is ironic because just like Kailey said, Victor himself is ignorant. Especially him thinking the best idea was to create some creature to entertain himself, ending up killing many people close to him. Also when he says he doesn't want to marry Elizabeth, someone who was his best friend his entire childhood, and was his mother's last wish to marry her. Another time where he shows his ignorance is when he decides not to tell anyone about the creature and decides to try to handle it himself.
I don't know if this would be considered ignorance, but after he had spent 2 years away from his family and friends and when he finally finishes the creature, the first thing he does is runs away and leaves it alone because he thinks its so hideous. Had he tried to care to it and teach it something, maybe none of this would have ever happened. So i guess my question to mrs williams would be is that ignorance??
@Rihani: I don't think I would couch Victor's actions or rather inaction toward the creature as ignorance. I'm thinking more along the lines of just abandonment. I mean, he just walks away. He is regretting this creation, but he's not ignorant. Maybe apathetic at this point? Maybe we could also say he's afraid. He's afraid he will be judged by society like the creature is judged. And after all the time he spent away (as you said) he's afraid to admit that he wasted that time?? Some things to consider.
It can not be denied that Victor did hold some ignorance, because he did create this monster (literally and figuratively), and that is where the irony lies.
But I really don't view Victor as an ignorant character. As far as for creating the monster, imagine if you had created a creature such as that? I would be terrified. And when you're terrified, running the things that scare you is typically the most natural reaction for any human being. Sure, Victor wasn't strong during that moment of weakness, but that was one of his first ever challenges we were shown him to have. After all, his entire childhood was one of pure happiness and love, then later hiding out for two years to pursue his passion of science. We see that he wasn't a very experienced character, to begin with. But after he lived through some of these hardships that life presented to him, we saw him learn, and as a result he became a stronger person and took the responsibility to fight this evil creature and essentially give up his life for the people he loved.
@ Mrs. Williams: Gotchya yeah that sounds a little better. I thought about it a little more and I would agree with him being afraid about what would happen to him if society knew it was his creature.
I think that Victor's ignorance doesn't solely come from the fact that he created the monster. The quote talks about how the magistrate is ignorant in his pride of wisdom, or in other words, he is so sure that he is correct despite lacking concrete evidence. I believe this is where the irony of the statement comes from. It is in this same manner that Victor treated the monster right after he created it, he was scared of it, so he just walked away from his problem and assumed that forgetting about it would resolve said problem when in fact the problem gets much worse. It is in this way that the statement is ironic because it directly mirrors Victor's past actions.
I agree with Preston. Victor was ignorant towards how the world would respond to his monster and how the monster would respond to the world. Victor had the wisdom of how to create the monster, but was blind to the consequences of creating the monster.
I feel this goes back to the whole quote about it being better to be ignorant in knowledge and that of your native town thing because here he is saying that those who do not fully understand wisdom and the amount of knowledge that comes with it is not prepared for the outcome. When I read the part about "pride of wisdom" I feel that he is trying to get across to us a point about how acting like you know and REALLY knowing are two entirely different things.
Not only did this statement demonstrate the irony of Victor's ignorance, according to the above statements, it also brought to light the irony of his pride of wisdom, to reiterate Preston and Taylor's comments. Victor obsessed over obtaining knowledge pertaining to the construction of his creature, but rather than utilizing that newfound wisdom for a beneficial cause, he abuses this knowledge and directs it to the artificial creation of life. In the end he was not wise enough to foresee the destructive ramifications of his creation, and he wound up suffering countless misfortunes from this.
This is ironic because Victor himself can be ignorant. For example. he created the monster, and then once he saw what he created, he tried to ignore what he had brought upon himself. Another example is when he is actually creating the monster, he completely ignores his family for 2 years. These are the people that actually love and care about him. Another reason he is being ignorant is because his father is paying for his schooling and other things so that he can be the man who he wants to be.
ReplyDeleteThis statement is ironic because just like Kailey said, Victor himself is ignorant. Especially him thinking the best idea was to create some creature to entertain himself, ending up killing many people close to him. Also when he says he doesn't want to marry Elizabeth, someone who was his best friend his entire childhood, and was his mother's last wish to marry her. Another time where he shows his ignorance is when he decides not to tell anyone about the creature and decides to try to handle it himself.
ReplyDeleteI don't know if this would be considered ignorance, but after he had spent 2 years away from his family and friends and when he finally finishes the creature, the first thing he does is runs away and leaves it alone because he thinks its so hideous. Had he tried to care to it and teach it something, maybe none of this would have ever happened.
So i guess my question to mrs williams would be is that ignorance??
@Rihani: I don't think I would couch Victor's actions or rather inaction toward the creature as ignorance. I'm thinking more along the lines of just abandonment. I mean, he just walks away. He is regretting this creation, but he's not ignorant. Maybe apathetic at this point? Maybe we could also say he's afraid. He's afraid he will be judged by society like the creature is judged. And after all the time he spent away (as you said) he's afraid to admit that he wasted that time?? Some things to consider.
ReplyDeleteIt can not be denied that Victor did hold some ignorance, because he did create this monster (literally and figuratively), and that is where the irony lies.
ReplyDeleteBut I really don't view Victor as an ignorant character. As far as for creating the monster, imagine if you had created a creature such as that? I would be terrified. And when you're terrified, running the things that scare you is typically the most natural reaction for any human being. Sure, Victor wasn't strong during that moment of weakness, but that was one of his first ever challenges we were shown him to have. After all, his entire childhood was one of pure happiness and love, then later hiding out for two years to pursue his passion of science. We see that he wasn't a very experienced character, to begin with. But after he lived through some of these hardships that life presented to him, we saw him learn, and as a result he became a stronger person and took the responsibility to fight this evil creature and essentially give up his life for the people he loved.
@ Mrs. Williams: Gotchya
ReplyDeleteyeah that sounds a little better. I thought about it a little more and I would agree with him being afraid about what would happen to him if society knew it was his creature.
I think that Victor's ignorance doesn't solely come from the fact that he created the monster. The quote talks about how the magistrate is ignorant in his pride of wisdom, or in other words, he is so sure that he is correct despite lacking concrete evidence. I believe this is where the irony of the statement comes from. It is in this same manner that Victor treated the monster right after he created it, he was scared of it, so he just walked away from his problem and assumed that forgetting about it would resolve said problem when in fact the problem gets much worse. It is in this way that the statement is ironic because it directly mirrors Victor's past actions.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Preston. Victor was ignorant towards how the world would respond to his monster and how the monster would respond to the world. Victor had the wisdom of how to create the monster, but was blind to the consequences of creating the monster.
ReplyDeleteI feel this goes back to the whole quote about it being better to be ignorant in knowledge and that of your native town thing because here he is saying that those who do not fully understand wisdom and the amount of knowledge that comes with it is not prepared for the outcome. When I read the part about "pride of wisdom" I feel that he is trying to get across to us a point about how acting like you know and REALLY knowing are two entirely different things.
ReplyDeleteNot only did this statement demonstrate the irony of Victor's ignorance, according to the above statements, it also brought to light the irony of his pride of wisdom, to reiterate Preston and Taylor's comments. Victor obsessed over obtaining knowledge pertaining to the construction of his creature, but rather than utilizing that newfound wisdom for a beneficial cause, he abuses this knowledge and directs it to the artificial creation of life. In the end he was not wise enough to foresee the destructive ramifications of his creation, and he wound up suffering countless misfortunes from this.
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