Tuesday, September 21, 2010

Frankenstein Ch. 1-8

What does Victor's statement that "the world was to me a secret which I desired to divine" demonstrate about his character?

21 comments:

  1. I believe it demonstrates that Victor has a passion to analyze everything.Given that he took up the study of natural science, he also had been studying many things on his own time because he had the unquenchable thirst for knowledge.What this says about his character, is that he has a passion to analyze, study, and know all things.

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  3. The statement "the world was to me a secret which I desired to divine" is simply showing Victor's curiosity of the world in which he lives in. As the book portrays his character, Victor is a character who thinks logically; always searching for the answers to life's mysteries, and solving them as well. He wants to know everything about the Earth: what makes it work and what knowledge does it have to offer him? So with this passion and desire instigated in him, he inevitable sets out to unravel one of the it's greatest mysteries; life. And in doing so, he accomplishes it. He creates life from his own hands in response to that passion and curiosity. That is what I believe this passage is demonstrating about his character.

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  4. I agree with Joe and Christina that it shows his curiosity for the world and that he wanted to figure it out for himself. But I think it also conveys that he wasn't satisfied with the knowledge of the world that he had been taught. He needed to find his own answers for his questions.

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  5. I agree with all, but I also think that it shows his individuality and independence in his personality. The fact that he states the world as a "secret" to him tells me that he likes to contain his thoughts away from the pressures of society. Throughout the chapters which we have read, Victor feels comfortable in his own little world. He has his own ideas about society, the world and nature that does not exactly conform to the beliefs of his father or the professors at Ingolstadt.

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  6. The statement conveys the perpetual will Victor has for defining everything, even what may be believed as impossible. Since his youth, Victor strived to uncover and learn of the things he did not know - he wished to perform the impossible. He delineates this desire to the fullest extent when he creates life, The quote also alludes to the dangers that accompany knowledge, which Victor is utterly oblivious to and neglectful of.

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  7. This demonstrates the fact that Victor is eager to learn about anything and everything. He has a craving for new information and new knowledge of life around him. He has a very curious character, which in turn, leads him to discover everything possible about the different subjects around him. When he first started attending the University of Ingolstadt, Victor studied Chemistry, but once meeting professors M. Krempe and M. Waldman he quits his study of chemistry and pursues the subject of anatomy. This demonstrates how his very curious and adventuresome character lets him learn and experiment with new ideas. Since his early childhood he was searching for ways to learn something new. His goal in life is to uncover everything there is to know about the world.

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  8. I feel like i am beating a dead horse here but I agree with everyone's comments above. Victor really has a curiosity for life and the world itself. When he says"I desired to divine," it is foreshadowing the fact that he will play "God" and great a monster of his own. Victor's curiosity creates a hunger inside him to find out things for himself. He does not take other peoples beliefs but instead creates his on takes on life and the world itself.

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  9. Victor's statement "the world was to me a secret which I desired to divine" pretty much defines his character as a whole. Having a passion for science and all its' wonders, his curiosity leads him to the determination of finding the answers to any questions that he may have. In Victor's eyes, the world was a mystery with many questions that needed to be solved. So basically, this statement exemplifies his curiosity and determination in not just science, but in life itself.

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  10. This statement really shows Victor's perseverance to succeed in whatever he does. He wants to get to the bottom of this "secret" and he wont let any person, emotion or obstacle get in his way. He has the drive to test and question science.

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  11. Throughout the entire book, but specifically in the parts about his background, Victor is constantly "lifted up to the Heavens." This gives the effect of him becoming an outer-worldly being. A god. His pursuit of the world's secrets seems a decent and noble pursuit, but one gets the sense that he is not in pursuit of knowledge, but in pursuit of omniscience. Again, lifting himself up to God's level so that we are set up for him to be a Creator.

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  12. All scientists are driven by a sense of curiosity, which offers them a deep passion to learn about everything and anything around them. Victor, being a man of science himself, sought out all this knowledge about the nature of the world around him in order to unravel the mysteries surrounding life. However, the fact that he "desired to divine" the world shows how he strived to transcend a god, ultimately leading to the construction of his creature.

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  13. I agree with you Daniel about Victor's deep passion to learn about everything and anything around him. I feel that Victor sees the world as a secret because of how his parents sheltered him from all evil and demented things leading him to curiosity in the world and philosophy. Victor, "It was the secrets of heaven and earth that I desired to learn; and whether it was the outward substance of things, or the inner spirit of nature and the mysterious soul of man that occupied me, still my inquires were directed to the metaphysical, or, in its highest sense, the physical secrets of the world.

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  14. sorrry...I forgot to say where I found it in the book!
    pg.34, 3rd paragraph.

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  15. Victor was never satisfied with the knowledge he was given. Therefore, he was always seeking for more. Often times this led to a destructive path, either emotionally, towards himself, or towards other. This statement displays the need Victor has to solve everything. Victor, even through his studies was not so sure to trust his professors, he always had to prove things for himself. As a scientist this is non-unique however, he still falls into the dangers of never being content. As the monster proves, it is possible to go too far.

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  16. It shows how from the very beginning Victor wanted to discover new things. His desire was to create and to figure things out. The world that he lived in was a mystery to him and he wanted to solve it for himself. This characteristic that he developed as a child was ultimately the result of his creation, Frankenstein.

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  17. i agree with clay and elizabeth, the fact that he tells us that ever since he was young he was always seeking knowledge shows us that he is the kind of person who never feels as if he has fulfilled the amount of information he can obtain. like clay said even in university he changes his major so he can learn new things (which is the beginning of his demise) then latter on after he creates the monster he changes his major once again.

    he also says in chapter 2 "My temper was sometimes violent, and my passions vehement; but by some law in my temperature they were turned not towards childish pursuits but to an eager desire to learn, and not to learn all things indiscriminately. I confess that neither the structure of languages, nor the code of governments, nor the politics of various states possessed attractions for me. It was the secrets of heaven and earth that I desired to learn; and whether it was the outward substance of things or the inner spirit of nature and the mysterious soul of man that occupied me, still my inquiries were directed to the metaphysical, or in its highest sense, the physical secrets of the world."

    this shows that even as a boy he was always looking for things to learn, but more specifically he wanted to learn the secrets of heaven and earth. his need for knowledge was shown throughout his entire life, Victor's statement that "the world was to me a secret which I desired to divine" demonstrates that he is always seeking for knowledge, knowledge that no one else has discovered. it shows us that he wants to be the first to know things to learn things others only dream of. but when he does find this knowledge it ends up killing him.

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  18. Victor is always looking to learn and to grow in knowledge and when presented with the world, he desires to acquire secrets of the world. The first time you see this is in Chapter 2, as Jessica quoted, he shows interest in the world, mainly in science (Also in chapter 2) "the principles of Agrippa had been entirely exploded, and that a modern system of science had been introduced, which possessed much greater powers than the ancient, because the the powers of the latter were chimerical, while those former were real and practical."
    When Victor states "the world was to me a secret which I desired to divine" shows his passion in attaining an understanding of this world; a world which is ever changing.

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  19. The statement"the world was to me a secret which I desired to divine", reveals Victors curiosity and ardent fascination with the world. During his college years, he spent most of his time studying, researching, and gaining as much knowledge as he could attain on a vast range of subjects and about the world.
    I agree with Stephanie, because indeed his enthusiasm for great knowledge eventually led to the creation of the being.

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  20. Victor has a characteristic common to most scientists: curiosity. While this is a definite attribute to a particular mindset, it is also imbued directly in nearly every human being that walks this Secret Planet. Everybody is curious and wants to know more about the planet, but everyone seeks their own answers separately and differently. Some write about it, some look at the leaves of trees, some discuss it in political terms, and some find it in creation, just like Victor, who, by observation and heavy philosophical influence, developed a method of satisfying his curiosity in abandoning the laws of morality and worshipping the laws of nature. Nature became his God, and the world was divine to him. He desired to divine the Divine.

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  21. Victor was always searching for more and more knowledge and wanted to answer the questions which had puzzled him. He was never satisfied with the knowledge he had at hand but always yearning for more due to his curiosity. Like Ellen said he has the characteristic common to scientists.

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